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Will Trump now take credit for saving Obamacare?

OK, that’s not really a real question, but what do you think of all the happenings in Washington this week? One good thing, the level of public interest in government seems to be at all all-time high.

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  • Joanna Greenshields March 24, 2017, 5:09 pm

    Trump will continue to tell us how dreadful Obamacare is. He will repeat over and over that it’s failing ” bigly” and do all he can to blame Democrats for the Trumpcare/Ryancare debacle. I hope he is still whining about it as they drag him out of the WH and escort him off to the penitentiary.

  • Bob Coble March 24, 2017, 5:10 pm

    This week has shown further evidence of how despicable the Republican Party is. It wants to get rid of the ACA primarily because it’s called “Obamacare.” Their pathetic attempt to do so this week was stopped because the GOP ultra right wing “Freedom Caucus” would not accept any of the parts of the ACA that the somewhat “moderate” faction would keep.

    • Howard Scherr March 25, 2017, 6:00 pm

      Bob,
      Absolutely right. The House has passed a straight repeal numerous times in the past seven years–but now that they run the table, they can’t. The reason? Because the ACA is working! It’s ensured millions have insurance; it’s slowing the growth of healthcare prices; it’s making sure everyone has basic preventive care. Whenever Trump voters have been interviewed, they’re upset that the ACA subsidies aren’t MORE generous! The Trumpcare bill that just bit the dust would have devastated families all over the country, and that’s why so many Republicans who cared about keeping their jobs wouldn’t vote for it. As one sage said recently, “Nobody knew healthcare could be so complicated!”

  • L. Parrish March 24, 2017, 5:39 pm

    If he doesn’t blame the Dems, he’ll blame the GOP and maybe Paul Ryan. Never mind the public’s 17% approval rating of the proposed bill. Let’s hope progressive actions can halt the rest of his distorted agenda. Maybe he’s getting the picture that he’s not a dictator, then again………
    With enough defeats, his eggshell ego may crack and maybe he’ll resign.

    • Susan Meister March 24, 2017, 5:49 pm

      Watch Tom Price, HHS Secretary, try to implement every possible rule, for example. reimbursements, to weaken it, or to reverse taxes used to support it. In other words, we don’t give a damn about people’s lives, we just want Obamacare to fail to prove we were right. We have to be on our guard to call every one of his sneaky tactics out. Resistance worked! Every town hall, every phone call, every visit to an MoC office helped this terrible legislation fail. Now is not the same to let our guard down. The Republicans are not finished with trying to deepen Obamacare’s flaws on the chance it will actually implode.

    • Eric Petersen March 24, 2017, 10:10 pm

      He blamed the Democrats

  • James Toy March 24, 2017, 5:55 pm

    This week’s events proved what most of us knew all along, that neither Trump nor GOPs in Congress ever had any better ideas.

  • Alice Angell Green March 24, 2017, 5:59 pm

    Your question gave me a much needed laugh–I totally cracked up. I know I don’t comment much, but I really appreciate this place!!

  • Karl Pallastrini March 24, 2017, 6:38 pm

    Nothing like trying to change the nation’ health care plan at day 64 of your 4 year term. He is not even at the traditional 100 days in office for review. Amateur hour at play. This is not the real estate business, where going bankrupt is standard practice. This is probably the most outrageous attempt to influence and change a policy that affects every citizen in the country in our history. I don’t think he will blame Paul Ryan. The Republicans in opposition are seeing the paper tiger Trump really is. They know their constituents. They really no absolutely nothing about President Trump, but all bets are off in regards to rank and file support. I would bet that Tax Reform will move along at a much slower pace. Take time to understand the country-side Donald. We are in the Public Sector now. Tools of the Private Sector may not apply.

  • ryan March 24, 2017, 7:52 pm

    While i can’t deny some significant political schadenfreude, I am also very glad that all those folk who rely on the ACA to keep them in the best health possible are still going to have insurance coverage. Republicare would have caused so much unnecessary suffering. The most rabid Trump fan does not deserve that.

  • Jean March 24, 2017, 9:47 pm

    Someone needs to explain to the President the difference between the buck he chased during his former career and the buck he cannot escape in his new one.

  • david fairhurst March 24, 2017, 10:29 pm

    All I learned on this forum is that the Trump haters would rather leave a destructive, repressive and failure of a health care plan in place rather than try to work and create something that will work now and in the future. Maybe the “Russians” hacked into it and that is why the A.C.A. is failing or maybe they are in denial dreaming that if only Hillary was President and rode in on her unicorn waving her magic Clinton Foundation at us all would be manna from Washington.
    55 days and it is all over? I think “progressives” are delusional. Has anybody on this site visited and talked to anybody not of the extreme left? A lot of people (and you can insult them all you want) do not trust See B.S. news, ABC, NBC, CNN, PBS (owned and run by who? yes kids, “progressives”) and yes a lot of those you chastise follow FOX because they trust them.
    The ranting of the Russians stole the election for Trump is madness, OMG the DNC was exposed as the corrupt group that it is and how dare that fact affect (and grasping at straws) the crowning of Queen Hillary. I thank whomever exposed the DNC, and now who is showing up to have illegally “spied” on their political opponents and more? Just saying……..there are other views to all this…..

    • Joanna Greenshields March 24, 2017, 11:56 pm

      I think that as the weeks and months pass by, you will see that the Trump team were a little too cozy with some comrades. As Sen. John McCain said “there’s a lot more shoes to drop from this centipede.”

    • Howard Scherr March 25, 2017, 6:11 pm

      David,
      I’d like to know how the ACA is failing. It’s slowed rising premiums–maybe you’re just a young whipper-snapper who didn’t have to worry about insurance prior to its passage in 2010, but I sure remember how difficult it was for my company to keep providing insurance for its employees. We changed plans every 12 months just to try to eke out a bit more coverage. We were hanging on by our fingernails. The ACA changed all that. Anyone who says it’s a failure is simply not in touch with reality.

      • david fairhurst March 25, 2017, 10:53 pm

        My “reality” is as a “self-employed” individual, the “best” plan I could get under the ACA (with no pre-existing conditions) is $730 per month (at start), a $6,000 pay out before ‘kicking in’, no medications paid for and only a 40% payment of whatever medical bills I incur. This on a $40,000 income. That is $8760 a year with no benefits and another $6,000 to start co- payments, that is $14,760 or 37% of my total income before that 40% co-payment from the insurer. Plus I get the threat of IRS fines or jail if I don’t comply. This is repressive and anti-American. Name me another product or service that is required by Federal law to purchase with no other options but to kow tow too and accept or you can go to jail. This is Totalitarian.
        I know of individuals who quit there “self-employed” jobs to work minimum wage just because of the health care coverage. It is affecting in a negative way people’s choices and lives.
        It is not a “Right” when you are obligating another to do a service for you. It is not Constitutional for the Government to force one into a purchase in a special market. I believe that one has a right to purchase health care , but not to be subjected to it. Where is my choice?

        • PT Caffey March 26, 2017, 4:44 pm

          //Name me another product or service that is required by Federal law to purchase with no other options but to kow tow too and accept or you can go to jail.//

          Aircraft carriers
          Tanks
          Jets
          ICBMs
          Trump’s weekly golf excursions

          I could go on.

    • PT Caffey March 25, 2017, 8:25 pm

      My father, while in his 50’s, was denied health insurance coverage repeatedly by the big carriers in California. Although he suffered from no serious pre-existing conditions, he was self-employed in a working class occupation that didn’t fit any of the insurance companies’ desired profiles. So no coverage–none–until he was eligible for Medicare several years later. Thus, his health and our family’s finances rode along on clovers and rabbits’ feet–that is, on sheer luck.

      If you’ve always enjoyed coverage, you have a comfy perch from which to bemoan the “destructive” and “repressive” nature of the ACA. But I’ve seen the issue from the other end, and what’s truly destructive is for your dad to be denied coverage for no damn good reason at all.

      President Obama’s plan wasn’t perfect, but–by removing conditions and caps–it lessened some of the arbitrary power of the insurance companies to blithely sentence people to shorter lives and earlier deaths. To ground the expectation of coverage for all into law as a federal right is Obama’s legacy. How this will be accomplished will evolve–as the details of Medicare evolved over decades. But even Mr. Trump, in his campaign, bought into and defended Obama’s vision. “Everyone” will have “good health care,” Trump promised us all.

      So why did Trump fail? Because the plan Speaker Ryan delivered broke all of Trump’s promises. This lost him the moderates. And, for the far right, the plan just wasn’t cruel enough. It’s a political divide within the GOP that is certain to flare again once tax reform is considered.

      To save his presidency, Trump’s only available recourse is to turn, as a flailing Schwarzenegger did, toward the Democrats and, with them, act to fulfill his populist promises. Continued obedience to the plutocracy will ruin him. Of course, this will be tough to do with tax reform, as voters within Trump’s core constituency do not pay a lot of income taxes, and no one will propose cutting payroll taxes. So which taxes will be the GOP propose to cut? Estate taxes, capital gains taxes, corporate taxes. And which taxes will go up? “Border taxes” on imports that Trump’s folks now buy cheaply at Target and Walmart.

      You can see where this is heading. And, whether you hear about it on CBS or Fox News, the verdict will be the same: another disastrous Trump failure.

  • Dan Turner March 24, 2017, 10:31 pm

    I feel ambivalent about today’s events. On the one hand, it’s gratifying to see the Repubs look like a bunch of incompetent bozos and Trump come off as a heel who can’t swing a deal. On the other hand, we are going to have to get rid of Obamacare in order to create a truly effective single payer type of health care, à la Canada. It would have been nice if the Repubs had done that for us and replaced it w/a system that would have been worse and might have cost them some House seats in 2018.
    Remember, although Obamacare isn’t in a “death spiral” as Ryan claims, and although it is better than nothing (which is what we had before 2008), it does have inherent faults and flaws, the worst one being that it is run by, for and in the best interests of the insurance companies. It basically stinks as a national health program compared to single payer and I think that the continued existence of Obamacare may make it more difficult to establish a really good single payer system in some future where the Democrats control the Pres and the Congress.

  • bill leone March 24, 2017, 11:32 pm

    Yes, we need a Single Payer Health Care System, just like the rest of the Civilized World.
    The ACA is one step in that direction, & if it weren’t for Jumpin’ Joe (scumbag) Lieberman, there would be a Public Option embedded in the ACA’s passage. Moreover, if the ACA is repealed, a lot of vulnerable people would suffer for an unknown period of time. Finally, there is nothing stopping us from demanding a Single Payer Health Care system at the local or state level.

    • Dan Turner March 25, 2017, 1:04 pm

      I agree that repealing the ACA would result in a lot of people going w/o any sort of health insurance for a long time and, therefore, suffering in ways chronic and acute because of an inability to afford any sort of medical care. I’m just saying that, in the inequitable society in which we presently live with its dysfunctional political process/government, it may be necessary to take any number of steps back before we can move forward.

  • Alex Stewart March 25, 2017, 7:49 am

    Ironic that the ACA will endure because the *Freedom Caucus* didn’t think the Republican alternative was evil enough.

  • Jacqueline Fobes, Ph.D. March 25, 2017, 8:43 am

    It feels good to have won this round but there will be many more battles in the next four years. Immediately we need to address the $20 billion dollar waste of money on the US-Mexico wall. KQED recently reported that over seven hundred companies are trying to get these contracts, many of them California based, and that submissions for contracts begins next Wednesday. Why do I think many of these major contracts will go to preferred “friends” or certain political groups? Can we all think of better ways this $20 billion should be spent?

    • Joanna Greenshields March 25, 2017, 9:43 am

      We certainly can, Jacqueline!

  • john moore March 25, 2017, 10:51 am

    Medicare is a single payer health plan, but most of us paid into it for 30-45 years before entering the system.
    Trump Care failed for the same reasons as Obama Care, the cost of treating pre-existing conditions. A citizen without insurance, upon learning of cancer, heart disease etc, could procure insurance and the insurance carrier was on the hook for massive costs. So carriers raised and raised premiums, deductibles and co-pays and stiill lost money until they left the Obamacare business. The plan was to insure pre-existing conditions by raising the premiums on the healthiest, but premiums etc. are so out of hand that many of our insured have health insurance, but no affordable care.

    Trump Care kept insurance for pre-existing conditions, thereby making it as costly as Obamacare, hence a failure.

    In addition to the pre-existing condition issue, Obamacare recently expanded medicade, imposing a huge new expense on states, in part because it added a large pre-existing condition component.

    No private insurance company can package an affordable policy that covers pre-existing conditions at a doable cost, only the federal govt. has the resources to undertake that massive cost. It should be a federal separate single-payer program paid by everyone based on the ability to pay and should include the medicade pre-existing condition costs thereby making that program affordable by states.

    This is an issue that screams for bi-partisanship. Until it is enacted there is no formula that will provide universal healthcare at an affordable cost, because both parties will continue to hide the pre-existing condition cost issue by placing it on groups not at the table.

    • Dan Turner March 25, 2017, 1:23 pm

      I completely agree w/the last two paragraphs. Unfortunately, it is going to be very difficult to overcome the enormous amount of $ that the insurance corps and Big Pharma will apply to the political system in the form of our legalized bribery system that we refer to as “campaign contributions” to prevent politicians from introducing, and then supporting, a bill for a good health care system into the legislative process, not to mention the public relations campaigns that they can afford to broadcast over the various airwaves/social media to convince people that a good health care system, like Canada’s single payer, is actually bad for them. Remember, also, that a good, professional, high-priced public relations campaign can often fool most of the people for a long time.
      So, it’s not impossible to get a good health care system here but we shouldn’t fool ourselves as to how difficult it may be. The Repubs won’t do it for us and the Dems, in their present incarnation, won’t do it for us either. Hopefully, the efforts underway locally and across the country to gain control of the Dem party will result in a party that is less beholden to the big insurance corps, Big Pharma, Wall Street financiers, etc. that will be able to bring forth a good health care proposal and get it through Congress. You know, Canada’s single payer system began in one of its Midwestern provinces and, upon seeing how beneficial it was for the folks in that province, was then adopted by other provinces and, eventually, became a national health plan. Maybe the best way to establish such a system in the US would be to start in a state, demonstrate how beneficial it is there and encourage folks in other states to demand something similar.

      • Tom Shields March 26, 2017, 9:57 am

        Single Payer Healthcare (Medicare for all}; this was a central part of Bernie’s campaign.
        Why in this time has he not resubmitted a bill for 2017?

        Of course as said above the forces against it are well financed, but a majority of the citizens support it; and it needs to be in the discussion mix, nationally now.
        Tom

  • bill leone March 25, 2017, 8:31 pm

    The future does look bleak regarding the prospects of implementing a humane single payer system, especially in light of the massive amounts of money spent preventing it from becoming a reality; money provided by the insurance industry, big Pharma, & evil doers such as the Koch brothers. However, I would like to remind everyone that the most lucrative business in America before 1865 was Slavery. Which is why Mississippi was, at the time, the most prosperous state in the union. Moreover, because adult slaves were considered a fraction of a person, the South had a stranglehold on the Federal Government ever since the Constitutional Convention. However, in spite of these overwhelming odds, slavery Was abolished (600,000 American lives later), women suffrage triumphed, Civil Rights Laws were passed, & I’m sure we will see Single Payer Health Insurance in our lifetimes.

    The Pimp President, & the Republican Party he swallowed whole, are swimming against the current of History.

  • john moore March 26, 2017, 8:45 am

    Just to clarify: I propose a mandatory single payer system to cover pre-existing conditions. The insurance companies would love to have that risk removed from the rest of the medical insurance scope of coverage and the insurance industry could compete in an arena where the actuarial risks could be estimated.

    In addition, a single payer option, in addition to the pre-existing condition pool could be made available to compete with private insurers.

    BTW, I am a big fan of Part C (Advantage and POS plans) like our local Montage for Medicare. It could be expanded for all. It is “non-profit” and eliminates the insurance companies by negotiating directly with pharma, doctors, staff etc. In my experience, which is a medicare option(covers Part B, Part D and a small dental)it is about half the cost of the array of Part B and D plans available.

  • bill leone March 26, 2017, 11:01 am

    Okay, here it is, an opportunity to back a political movement to lower the Medicare age to zero:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-progressives-medicare-for-all_us_58d6f5c1e4b03692bea68fd2?section=us_politics

    Now, if you’re interested in actually Doing something to make this happen, you might attend this Tuesday night’s MCDCC (Monterey County Democratic Central Committee) meeting, at the
    Center For Change on Fremont Blvd, in Seaside at 6:00, & voice your opinion….rather than sit at your computer & play the “Oh, Ain’t It Awful game,” (Eric Berne: Games People Play).

  • bill leone March 26, 2017, 11:32 am

    David, As I see it, the problem with your Medical insurance is Not the ACA, but your insurance company.
    I also had insurance as a self employed individual Before the ACA, & as a result of being diagnosed with Gluten Sensitivity I was refused coverage. Blue Cross furnished me with a special type of insurance for people with pre-existing conditions, but the premiums doubled every year for five years, until I landed a job teaching Math at Seaside high school, & my Medical Insurance was mostly covered by the Monterey Unified School District (with employee paid, group insurance there is no exclusion for pre-existing conditions). Moreover, I do know people who had their hearing checked or who were treated for a sprained knee, & were denied coverage for the same reason Before the ACA. Under the ACA you cannot be denied coverage for a pre-existing condition.
    I suggest you call my friend Jay Cohen (1-831-521-1088, or email, coheninsservices@aol.com) & talk to him about getting more suitable insurance. Moreover, you may be able to get a tax rebate, if you qualify. Also, if you have your own business, your insurance premiums are tax deductible as a business expense. I have referred many of my clients to Jay, including veterans who qualified for MediCal, to get more comprehensive, low-cost medical insurance…… & Jay is a straight-up guy.

  • Hill March 26, 2017, 5:30 pm

    It is not just Obamacare.
    Our employer recently switched from one large insurance company to another. All medications, etc. were to be transferred. I called to order, first rep at mail order pharmacy entered the information and never forwarded to fill. Calling to find why it had not arrived, the next rep verified the brand name and placed the order. I received a generic.
    Takes years to find right med so called again and was told a Dr. notation “fill as written” needed on prescription to exclude generic.
    Took care of that, next rep refunded generic and mentioned it was the same price as the brand per her list. She would ship ASAP. It never arrived.
    Called again, another rep said they don’t keep on hand, they could order but would charge $700.0 for 3 months and would not apply to our high deductible. Their price was more than twice the prior company and $100.00 more than Costco. I hung up.
    LOE is term for a brand drug that has” loss of exclusion” as generics available. To remain competitive, would brand manufacturers reduce price? I called the manufacturer, explained my issue and was directed to their exclusive mail order pharmacy. They do not bill insurance; one month supply is $35.00, three months $105.00. Other LOE drugs are affordable, and listed on http://www.eaglepatientdirect.com. They are on Facebook and trying to get the word out. I had no issues with my order, half the cost of generic.
    Why did OptumRX, owned by United Health Care, just as WellPoint owned NextRx, avoid filling my transferred prescription? Next RX in many cases shipped paid prescriptions short to the 90 day prescription and WellPoint knew it.
    Are insurance companies involved in financing and producing generics? Potential conflict of interest?
    I have heard our politicians have good health care coverage. Until they use what the rest of us do, no real incentive to change and the ruling below may be contributing to our health care woes as actual citizens cannot compete with corporations.
    “Supreme Court’s ruling in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission in 2010, upholding the rights of corporations to make political expenditures under the First Amendment, there have been several calls for a Constitutional amendment to abolish corporate personhood.” And so we should.
    Trump should jump on that.

  • Karl Pallastrini March 26, 2017, 7:20 pm

    You have to love the considered responses regarding what happened to Trump’s replacement of the ACA. What happened is that he doesn’t know anything about politics, not to mention the public sector. If you can’t figure out where your party is, you spend your time in that arena. To assume that you will have the votes is naive. Where are the advisors? You have to build coalitions and absolutely KNOW where you are going, before presenting a somewhat half-baked plan to replace the ACA. So…whats the hurry? Better to get down in the trench with your fellow Republicans and find out if they are willing to trade the commitment to their constituency for blind allegiance to the Donald. Apparently they were not. This is elementary politics…not rocket science. Don’t go anywhere if you cannot guarantee the outcome. Patience is a virtue. The last effective coalition builder was Bill Clinton. You have to be able to work both sides of the aisle. That was Obama’s fatal flaw in his 8 year term. President Trump needs to climb off of his high horse and see the landscape for what it really is. Better know where each member of your party is before moving forward with Tax Reform

    • PT Caffey March 27, 2017, 12:25 am

      When Clinton was President, we still had many conservative southern Democrats and truly moderate Republicans. A “third way” president elected could build a coalitition from this on a handful of issues–but not on health care. Since then, we’ve seen the Great Sorting occur and radical political polarization. The “flaw” is not particular to Obama. It’s just a different landscape now. Today’s Democratic Party would never nominate a candidate whose central plank is “We will end welfare as we know it.”

      Consider this. It’s from the 1996 Democratic Platform. Times have changed:

      “Today’s Democratic Party also believes we must remain a nation of laws. We cannot tolerate illegal immigration and we must stop it. For years before Bill Clinton became President, Washington talked tough but failed to act. In 1992, our borders might as well not have existed. The border was under-patrolled, and what patrols there were, were under-equipped. Drugs flowed freely. Illegal immigration was rampant. Criminal immigrants, deported after committing crimes in America, returned the very next day to commit crimes again.”

  • Karl Pallastrini March 27, 2017, 2:27 pm

    You have to play in the landscape as it is today. True, building coalitions back in the day was easier, but that is not an excuse for being a bull in a china shop. Todays politics are difficult with even the electoral college and two party system under more scrutiny than ever. My point is…deal with it. Better to spend time learning the lay of the land, vetting support and moving forward when you know where you are going and with who. Hard to do in the first 100 days of any presidents term…especially regarding health care.

    • PT Caffey March 27, 2017, 10:22 pm

      I agree. But Trump couldn’t even build a winning coalition within his OWN PARTY. That demonstrates how radical the extremes have grown. Today’s media climate, where each person chooses his own “reality,” only serves to exacerbate this polarization.

      Trump’s now talking about “reaching out” to Democrats, as I previously suggested, but the likelihood of a compromise is slim.